Ryzen 7000 with 3D V-Cache is here! Well, at least halfway – AMD is holding back the cheaper Ryzen 7 7800X3D until the beginning of April and the availability of the top model Ryzen 9 7950X3D leaves a lot to be desired. But that's enough for a Sunday question about high-end CPUs. Another topic: How much L3 cache does your CPU have?
Table of contents
- The Ryzen 9 7950X3D does life difficult for the KS
- A whole series of CB radio for Ryzen 7000X3D
- There will be no faster gaming CPUs in 2023
- How does the community feel about Ryzen 7000X3D and the L3 cache?
- Zen 4 with 3D V-Cache or Raptor Lake in the high-end system?
- Do you have an X3D in use? And how much cache does your CPU offer?
- Participation is expressly desired
- Overview of the last ten Sunday questions
- Motivation and data usage
The Ryzen 9 7950X3D makes life difficult for the KS
It is the hoped-for and in many places expected big hit: The test for the Ryzen 7950X3D certifies that the first Zen 4 processor with 3D V-Cache has made a bigger leap in terms of gaming performance than AMD managed when switching from Ryzen 5000 to Ryzen 7000 . In the test, the top model with stacked SRAM proved to be currently the fastest CPU for games and on average also beats Intel's Core i9-13900KS (test), which in January was the first CPU with a 6 GHz single-core turbo clock ex works. The victory is not very clear, because depending on the selection of the games, the current Core i9 of the Raptor Lake generation or the Core i7-13700K (test) are definitely ahead of the Ryzen 9 7950X3D.
But Intel needs twice as much energy for this: While AMD's flagship CPU is satisfied with an average of only 72 watts of package power under gaming load, the Core i9-13900K (test) and Core i9-13900KS devour an average of 141 in the same scenario watts or 147 watts. And the Ryzen 9 7950X (test) with “only” 64 MB L3 cache comes to an average of 105 watts – the additional 64 MB of stacked 3D cache after use in the Ryzen 7 5800X3D (test) also know Zen 4 better To help efficiency in games.
An entire episode of CB radio for Ryzen 7000X3D
Why that is, what unfounded concerns there were in hindsight and what concerns about the Ryzen 9 7900X3D – which AMD has not distributed worldwide as a test sample – may still be appropriate, Jan and Fabian also discuss this in the current episode of the ComputerBase podcast CB radio. And the two editors come to the conclusion: AMD is not yet selling their favorites. If you don't need a particularly high application performance, but are just looking for high gaming performance, you should probably wait until April 6, 2023.
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Nevertheless, the first tests on the top model Ryzen 9 7950X3D – AMD has not sampled the cheaper Ryzen 9 7900X3D, which is equipped with only six instead of eight “3D cache cores” worldwide – already reveal many interesting findings that represent an excellent basis for a Sunday question . Because there will be no better processors for FPS hunting in games in this still young year; Ryzen 9 7950X3D and Core i9-13900K(S) will be the most powerful gaming CPUs available on the market for the foreseeable future.
How does it hold up Community with Ryzen 7000X3D and the L3 cache?
Reason enough to feel the mood within the enthusiastic community on ComputerBase: What is your first impression of the Ryzen 7000 with 3D V-Cache? Did AMD's presentation and the first tests on the Ryzen 7950X3D convince you? Are you cautiously optimistic and waiting for tests on the smaller models? Or are you disappointed with the new processors and would have expected more cache or more performance?
What is your first impression of the Ryzen 7000 with 3D V-Cache?
- AMD has pleasantly surprised and exceeded my expectations. The Ryzen 9 7950X3D is the perfect gaming CPU for me!
- While the Ryzen 9 7950X3D can impress, for me personally it comes down to the performance of the cheaper Zen 4 CPUs with stacked L3 cache.
- Well, the Ryzen 9 7950X3D isn't bad, but I expected more performance and hoped for two chiplets with 3D V-Cache. The result is a bit sobering.
- Ryzen 7000 with 3D V-Cache is a clear disappointment for me.
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The question of which of the three Zen 4 processors with stacked L3 cache the community finds the most attractive would undoubtedly also be interesting – but since tests for the Ryzen 9 7900X3D are few and far between the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is still a long way off, it's still too early for that.
Zen 4 with 3D V-Cache or Raptor Lake in the high-end system?
Of course, this does not apply to the top model Ryzen 9 7950X3D – tests here already provide a clear picture of performance, consumption and efficiency. The same applies to Intel's Raptor Lake spearhead, the Core i9-13900K(S). AMD's top model offers a little more performance at half the power consumption, but is dependent on the comparatively expensive AM5 platform and DDR5 RAM. The 13th generation Intel Core, on the other hand, also runs on cheaper mainboards and with DDR4 RAM. And anyway, the two Core i9 are cheaper than the Ryzen 9 7950X3D.
Assuming that all three CPUs were available at the recommended retail price: which model and which platform would you choose if you were to set up a new high-end system? Which manufacturer offers the best overall package?
Which top CPU model would you choose?
- I would go for the Ryzen 9 7950X3D from AMD.
- I would choose the Core i9-13900KS from Intel.
- I would choose the Core i9-13900K from Intel.
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The fact that such expensive processors are out of the question for most readers in practice is irrelevant. Feel free to tell us in the comments which processor you would actually choose when buying a new one.
Are you using an X3D? And how much cache does your CPU offer?
The two following questions also refer to reality. First of all: Are you using a CPU with AMD's 3D V-Cache? The Ryzen 7 5800X3D has been extremely popular for almost a year, and experience has shown that it is also within the ComputerBase community – but how many readers actually rely on the first gaming processor with a stacked L3 cache?
Do you have a CPU with 3D V-Cache in your primary PC?
- Yes, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D.
- Yes, the Ryzen 9 7950X3D.
- Yes, the Ryzen 9 7900X3D.
- No, I use a different CPU from AMD.
- No, I use an Intel CPU.
- No, I use an Apple CPU.
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And finally, how big is the L3 cache of the CPU in your primary machine? Under Windows, the existing L3 cache can be easily viewed via the task manager. In the “Performance” tab, the “CPU” sub-item provides information about the available amount of L3 cache.
How big is the L3 cache of the CPU in your primary PC?
- Less than 2 MB
- 2 to 3 MB
- 4 to 7 MB
- 8 to 11 MB
- 12 to 15 MB
- 16 to 23 MB
- 24 to 31 MB
- 32 to 47 MB
- 48 to 63 MB
- 64 to 95 MB
- 96 to 127 MB
- 128 to 255 MB
- 256 MB or more
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Participation is expressly desired
As always, the editors are happy to receive well-founded and detailed reasons for your decisions in the comments on the current Sunday question. If you have completely different views that are not covered by the polls in the article, please post them in the comments. Ideas and suggestions for additions to the content of the current or future surveys are also welcome.
Readers who have not yet taken part in the past Sunday questions are welcome to do so – the surveys always run for a period of 30 days and the only requirement for participation is a free ComputerBase account. In particular, there are still exciting discussions going on in the ComputerBase forum about the last Sunday questions.
Overview of the last ten Sunday questions
- GeForce, Radeon & Arc: How much memory does your graphics card have and is that enough for you?
- Equipment at the desk: Is your PC on the table? And what else does it say?
- Light or dark: do you use dark modes? And if so, where and when?
- Game modding: Do you modify your games? And if so, which ones and how?
- Rebranding and new editions: old technology with a new name – (when) is that legitimate?
- TV and video streaming: which streaming services do you use it and how much does it cost?
- The perfect PC screen: What does your display setup look like on the PC (in a dream)?
- CES 2023 in retrospect: What are your highlights and lowlights from Las Vegas?
- Luxury gaming PC: Is a high-end computer still justifiable in 2023?
- Christmas question : What technology is under the tree (in your dream)?
Motivation and data utilization
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