TDP of notebook CPUs in the test: When the Core i9 loses against the Core i7

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The outcry was great when Nvidia expanded the TDP's influence on performance with the GeForce RTX 3000 laptop GPUs and initially remained silent about it. With mobile processors this is already old hat. Nevertheless, one should continue to talk about how the following duel Core i9-11980HK against i7-11800H shows.

Table of contents

    < li> 1 If the Core i9 loses against the Core i7

    1. The TDP influence is enormous in the notebook
    2. Intel's official Tiger Lake ranking
    3. Test model 1: MSI GE76 Raider with full equipment
    4. Test model 2: Schenker XMG Neo 15 (Mid 2021) with full throttle
    5. The test goal: Maximum performance for the maximum possible time
  1. 2 Benchmarks and experiences
    1. The power limits and their effects
    2. Benchmarks in applications with low and high CPU loads
    3. Comparison to desktop solutions
  2. 3 Conclusion and recommendation
    1. Is a Core i9 faster than a Core i7?
    2. How fast is it faster?
    3. Test, test, test – preferably in a swarm

The biggest, fastest and best is just good enough for some customers. But does the customer get exactly that if they base their choice on the type designation of the CPU or GPU installed in the notebook? Yes, it does as long as it compares different CPUs or GPUs in the same notebook. If, on the other hand, he compares the supposedly same CPU or GPU in two different notebooks, the type identifier is often no longer helpful.

The TDP- Influence enormous

The reason: The CPU and GPU manufacturers meanwhile give each model the option of being individually adapted by the OEM – within a seemingly endless range. As a rule, this is done via the TDP, i.e. the maximum permanently available power consumption. Every now and then the cooling system is added as a limiting factor.

An outcry among modern mobile GPUs

This topic came into focus at the beginning of 2021 with the publication of the Nvidia GeForce RTX 3000 laptop GPUs (test), the individual representatives of which could be configured very differently, which was less visible to the customer than ever before. The buyer can hardly see in advance that a mobile GeForce RTX 3060 could definitely beat a 3080 if it was plugged into notebook A and not B. Only the publication by ComputerBase of the TDP configurations allowed by Nvidia, which should actually only be seen by OEMs, brought more light into the dark and set a ball rolling that now at least provides for the specification of the TDP for every notebook.

Always a topic for mobile CPUs

The problem with mobile CPUs has been around for much longer and therefore less “sensational”. There, too, the official ranking of the CPUs is only worth something as long as they sit in the same notebook with the official standard configuration. Because there has always been a broad TDP framework here. It ensures that supposedly slower processors in Notebook A are much faster than the supposedly better model in Notebook B.

Because in desktop mode, PL2, the maximum permitted power consumption for short load peaks, you can also become a more or less enduring endurance runner (PL1) – and that at a very different level.

This problem also needs to be examined again from time to time, which the editors did in this test based on the golden mean processor Core i7-11800H in the XMG Neo 15 (M21) and the flagship Core i9-11980HK in the MSI GE76 Raider U11 has.

Intel's official Tiger Lake ranking

At the start of the test, there is a tabular overview of the Tiger Lake H45 in the notebook, which are most relevant here. This does not claim to be complete, because Intel has massively expanded the Tiger Lake range in notebooks over the past few months and continues to do so on a regular basis. As of the status of the test in mid-September, 55 mobile CPUs (including Embedded and Xeon) are stored in the Tiger Lake database.

Important Intel Tiger Lake H45 for notebooks model cores/
Threads max. all-core cycle
min./max. TDP max. Cycle
(Number of cores) L3 cache graphics EUs max.GPU clock DDR4 TDP Core i9-11980HK 8/16 3.3 GHz (65 W)/4.5 GHz 5.0 GHz (2 core ) 24 MB UHD 32 1.45 GHz 3200 45-65 Watt Core i9-11950H 8/16 2.1 GHz (35 W)/4.4 GHz 4.9 GHz (2 core) 24 MB UHD 32 1.45 GHz 3200 35–45 Watt Core i9-11900H 8/16 2.1 GHz (35 W)/4.4 GHz 4.9 GHz (2 core) 24 MB UHD 32 1.45 GHz 3200 35–45 Watt Core i7-11850H 8/16 2.1 GHz (35 W)/4.3 GHz 4.8 GHz (2 core) 24 MB UHD 32 1.45 GHz 3200 35–45 watts Core i7-11800H 8/16 1.9 GHz (35 W)/4.2 GHz 4.6 GHz (2 core) 24 MB UHD 32 1.45 GHz 3200 35–45 watts Core i5-11500H 6/12 2.4 GHz (35 W)/4.2 GHz 4.6 GHz (2 core) 12 MB UHD 32 1.40 GHz 3200 35–45 Watt Core i5-11400H 6/12 2.2 GHz (35 W)/4.1 GHz 4, 5 GHz (2 cores) 12 MB UHD 32 1.45 GHz 3200 35–45 watts Core i5-11260H 6/12 2.1 GHz (35 W)/4.0 GHz 4.4 GHz (2 cores) 12 MB UHD 32 1.40 GHz 3200 35–45 watts bold : in the test

Test model 1: MSI GE76 Raider with full equipment

With the MSI GE76 Raider 11 UH, Intel has not just provided any top model with the Core i9-11980HK and a GeForce RTX 3080 ( 150 + 15 watts) it is also equipped with the most powerful components on the market. With the gamer in focus, there is only Full HD on 17 inches, but there with a brisk 350 Hz. That has its price: the notebook costs around 4,000 euros.

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The new MSI GE76 Raider
The new MSI GE76 Raider

Even before the first benchmark it was noticed: Neither MSI's software nor the BIOS allow the HK to be overclocked, even if this is possible with this – and only this – CPU from Intel. The CPU can only be accelerated via the performance profile, although no precise information can be found as to what is hidden behind the respective settings.

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The MSI Center for configuration
The MSI Center for configuration
The MSI Center with set 95/200 watt PL1/PL2

Schenker once again shows that there is another way with the current XMG Neo 15 (M21) in the Intel version, which, according to the manufacturer, sells very well. It starts with a Core i7-11800H and an RTX 3060 (115 + 15 watts), which can be exchanged for an RTX 3080 (150 + 15 watts) as in the test sample. Then the price is just under 2,550 euros. In this case there are 15.6 inches with 2,560 × 1440 pixels at 165 Hz.

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XMG Neo 15 (M21)

In this niche, Schenker attaches great importance to freedom for the experienced user, but also to exploring the specified maximum. No other notebook vendor is currently so open to the outside world when it comes to TDP, power limits and more for processors and graphics cards – also in the ComputerBase forum. Where many companies are silent and sometimes waste performance through bizarre constellations, Schenker takes a different approach at XMG if the technical implementation of the ODM allows it. And the XMG Neo 15 (M21) allows everything.

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The Control Center of the XMG Neo 15 (M21)
The Control Center of the XMG Neo 15 (M21)
The Control Center of the XMG Neo 15 (M21)
The Control Center of the XMG Neo 15 (M21)

So not only the GPU in the XMG Neo 15 as in the XMG Core 17 with Ryzen (test) can be set completely freely at the beginning of the year, the CPU also lets that indulge yourself – be it via regular performance profiles or manually.

The Core i7-11800H can set power limits of 120 watts for short and long-term loads, and the fan matches this be turned up. This limit is set two restarts later.

The test goal: Maximum performance for the maximum possible time

The aim of the test is to get off to get the maximum possible CPU performance out of the notebooks. A look at the paper actually suggests: The result is clear.

The Intel Core i9-11980HK in the MSI model has a clear lead with turbo clock rates of 4.5 GHz for load on all cores up to 5 GHz for load on two or one core. The Core i7-11800H from the Schenker Neo 15 has to be content with a slightly lower 4.2 GHz on all cores, and it can only clock up to 4.6 GHz for two cores. Here the requirement clearly comes from above, i.e. Intel: Only flagships are allowed to go all the way up in single-core clocks, although almost every other CPU in this portfolio could probably do the same.

In practice, MSI allows the CPU to operate at 95 watts with a configTDP ex works of 65 watts with the maximum possible performance profile and the highest fan level. This is not new per se; previous generations of Intel were also often on the move in these areas. Intel itself even allows 107 watts for Tiger Lake according to the specification. Schenker goes one step further. Here the setting of the power limit can be clearly defined for PL1 and PL2. These can each be set to 120 watts – and without any time limit.

Intel Core i7-11800H in the Schenker Neo 15 at 120 watts

The interesting thing about the Schenker XMG Neo 15 (M21) is that this game can also be played on request drifting in the other direction. The built-in Core i7-11800H is also officially available with a configuration of only 35 watts, the so-called configTDP down. A manufacturer can therefore decide to build a very thin notebook with a small cooling system, but then nail the CPU directly to 35 watts – for now and forever. That would be the worst-case scenario for processor performance, but it is by no means excluded these days, as test models have repeatedly shown in recent years. In this respect, exactly this extreme is also taken into account in the test.

On the next page: Benchmarks and experiences